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David C Morris's avatar

From the direct report perspective, when leaders have gotten impatient with me in the past it is usually for the following reasons: 1) Expectations - I didn't do a good enough job asking the questions I needed to understand the What's and the When of the project; and 2) Too much time has passed between when I've given the leader an update on the progress of the project - even sharing no progress or news is good to do.

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Steve's avatar

Great recommendation! I can easily see how the "nothing significant" update goes a long way to fill the void that would otherwise leave people thinking there might be something wrong.

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Joe Loughery's avatar

Good morning,

Awesome points.

It always frustrates me when a superior, peer, and/or subordinate gets impatient with the newbies. I have heard: "I've already told them twice how to do it," or "I've already showed them." There's not much of a problem with this approach, IF they have been working, in the industry, awhile. The problem is most of us forget about hindsight bias and mastery. The one's I have these discussions with, have put in hundreds, if not thousands of hours.

At all levels we must (if we wish to be responsible) remember it generally takes thousands of hours to master things (ten thousand seems to be the general consensus).

We should absolutely rule out laziness and incompetence. If it's not these, then be patient with them.

A helpful approach is four to six week action plans. These allow one to track their improvements. I have found this approach to be informative and fair.

As always, thanks for your time.

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Mikey Ames's avatar

Morning Joe,

Do you think it is 10,000 hours or 10,000 iterations?

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Joe Loughery's avatar

Good morning Mikey,

Sigh, well that's a tough one.

First off, I am not a neuroscientist. That said, I suspect someone who does something ten thousand times will be fairly competent in the subject.

I do not believe this makes them a master though.

In work, we don't necessarily need masters everywhere.

We need diligent and competent people.

Hope this helps.

Two books that give a good reference of the path to mastery:

-MASTERY by Robert Greene

-MASTERY by George Leonard

Good question!

Thanks for your time.

-Joe

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Bradley Roteman's avatar

My Ten Ps of Personal Success

1 Purpose 2 Passion 3 Professionalism 4 Preparation 5 Product Knowledge

6 Proactive Listening 7 Presentation Skills 8 Patience 9 Perseverance

10 Proper Follow-Up

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Admired Leadership's avatar

What if two of those ten are ever at odds with each other, Bradley?

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David C Morris's avatar

I keep a tracker that I call big rocks. It has all the work I am involved in and then only the big rocks for my direct reports and their teams. As a leader, I track everything I am involved with for two reasons: 1) Transparency - I'm not above what I ask others to do, and 2) I'm starting to get team members asking me about Project X or Y and ask if they can jump in and help. All I ask my team regarding progress is: 1) Only work on a two or three things at a time, and 2) Focus on making progress a little everyday. I get on them when projects just sit there. Usually it is because they are working on too many things at once. I tell them we have two status for a reason - backlog and active. If you're not doing this, it helps a lot.

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Admired Leadership's avatar

Is this tracking list also public for your entire team to see at all times as well?

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David C Morris's avatar

Yes, it is. We use Microsoft Teams and we use their Tasks by Planner - It's not great, but it's integrated with Microsoft 365. Everyone I have invited to our Teams Channel has access to it and can see it.

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Jennifer's avatar

Same question as author.

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