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Great post. I have made a similar argument for a while where I work. It has been difficult to get leadership here to see it.

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What do you think they need to see it, Douglas? A different approach to building a team?

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It feels like they want everyone that gets promoted beyond PM to be a leader. I work in construction management. My argument is some managers are excellent managers of construction and can manage a successful project, but they are not effective leaders. We don’t have a distinction in our company. If you are promoted to Project Executive you are expected to be good at leadership. I think we need an alternative position for managers to grow into a Project Director position that is more project focused where that person can excel. they still need some leadership capabilities to manage their team, but it is at a different level.

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To directly answer your question I don’t know what they need to see to understand this distinction between manager and leader. When discussed they seem to understand, but unwilling to make that tactical change.

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We used your comment in our discussion this morning, Douglas.

https://twitter.com/AdmiredLeaders/status/1660989500468649986

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Thanks for breaking it down like this - fine example of what we are discussing.

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Join us at 11AM ET as we unpack today's Field Notes entry.

Set a reminder here: https://twitter.com/AdmiredLeaders/status/1660989500468649986

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Re: Spaces conversation - What companies are doing a good job at this? I've heard Pepsi is good at this. I worked for an HR Leader (Pete Leddy) who came up through the ranks there. I remember he made a comment about Indra Nooyi's succession to CEO at a conference several years back. He said she was on 'the list' as a potential candidate going back 10 or 15 years. Allan Church leads their Pepsi's Talent Management function and is a highly respected person within the I/O community.

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